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republicanveteran · Commander Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 333 Location: Texas

No the ban is only for televised ads....

lolajl · Lt.Jg. Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 136

Ladder Yankee 33 · Ensign Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 68 Location: Cumming, GA

John Forbes Kerry said: "They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam." - John F. Kerry (Testifying before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations 04/22/71)

Stop and consider just what would have been the outcome of the Vietnam War had what John Forbes Kerry claimed to have taken place actually took place. If each of us soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen (regardless of branch of service) did what Kerry admits to have done - under oath - then every Vietnamese man would have had portable telephone wires taped to his genitals and had the power turned up, ever Vietnamese woman would have been personally raped, then every Vietnamese man, woman, and child would have had their ears cut off, then their heads cut off, then their bodies blown up, then every Vietnamese village would have been razed in the fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, then their cattle and dogs would have been shot for fun, then their food stock would have been poisoned, and then we would have generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.

If we each has done these things then there wouldn't be 58,178 names on the WALL, and 2,370 +/- servicemen would not still be MIA!

For the ABB crowd: "YOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND; YOU WILL KEEP ON SEEING, BUT WILL NOT PERCEIVE; FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL, WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR, AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES, OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN, AND BE HEALED."

For all Vets for TRUTH! "BUT BLESSED ARE YOUR EYES, BECAUSE THEY SEE; AND YOUR EARS, BECAUSE THEY HEAR.
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neverforget · Vice Admiral Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 875

The new propaganda line as per Congressman Spratt (D) on FOX is:

"It's interesting they've (SwiftVets) switched their focus from Kerry's war record which was successfully defended."

WTF?

Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

WTF?!

Who says we are going to stop running the first ad? That first ad is highly effective and together make a nice 1-2 punch.

Someone is swiftly spinning....
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Truth is Beauty

Beatrice1000 · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:28 pm Post subject:

Marine4life · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

Once again, DO THEY NEED A LITTLE CHEESE TO GO WITH THAT WHINE? Semper Fi.
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cipher · Vice Admiral Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902

forgivenjojo · Former Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 159

Folks dont get too excited, Joh Kerry has a bombshell response that the swiftvets will not be able to recover from:

"I'm John Kerry, and I stand before the American people today and want you all to remain calm. You know the claims made by the swiftboat veterans are completely false. You know they are false and I would not lie because my intials are J.F.K. and I HAVE BETTER HAIR"

Lendorien · Seaman Recruit Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

Transcript of Swift Vets for Truth Ad #2

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): They had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads...

JOE PONDER: The accusations that John Kerry made against the veterans who served in Vietnam was just devastating...

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): ...randomly shot at civilians...

JOE PONDER: ...and it hurt me more than any physical wounds I had...

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): ...cut off limbs, blown up bodies...

KEN CORDIER: That was part of the torture, was to sign a statement that you had committed war crimes.

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): ...raised villages in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Kahn...

PAUL GALANTI: John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in North Vietnam in the prison camps took torture to avoid saying. (voiceover) It demoralized us.

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): ...crimes committed on a day to day basis...

KEN CORDIER: How could we support him now when he betrayed us in the past?

JOHN KERRY (voiceover): ...ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam...

PAUL GALANTI: He dishonored his country and more importantly, the people he served with. (voiceover) He just sold them out.

VOICEOVER: Swiftboat Veterans for Truth is responsible for the content of this ad.

dcrhere · Seaman Recruit Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 42

The ad is absolutely devastating, but how about adding this graphic to the end:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
- United States Constitution, Fourteenth Amendment, Section III

Steve Z · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:31 am Post subject: New member

I am not a veteran (too young for Vietnam, too old for Gulf I), but I want to thank the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth for exposing John Kerry for the self-glorifying liar and traitor that he was, and is.

I am a loyal supporter of President Bush, for his vigorous reaction to the 9/11 attacks, and for many other reasons, but I believe that the SBVT has struck a nerve by reminding "younger" voters (like myself) who had not made the connection between John Kerry the anti-war radical traitor of 1971 and Senator John Kerry, campaigning for President as a "decorated veteran". I am 48 years old now, but I was only 14 when John Kerry falsely accused our soldiers in Vietnam before the Senate, and was naively unaware of what he had done. Most voters my age or younger (about half the electorate) are similarly ignorant of Kerry's treachery, and might be fooled into voting for him for one of his empty promises.

I believe that The SECOND ad is more effective than the first, because people might be able to quibble about Kerry's medals because "official" Navy records (written by Kerry, for Kerry) tend to support Kerry's lies.

I just have a few questions:

Are you planning to run the ads in some larger "swing states", such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and especially Florida, where so many military people are based?

Do you plan on running a third ad, which could remind voters that Kerry's Senate testimony and negotiating with the enemy led to the slaughter of millions of South Vietnamese, and then ask voters what would President Kerry (God forbid!) do to Iraq and Afghanistan?

What can a non-veteran from a non-swing state (CT) do to help your cause, other than donate money (I've already donated $150)?

Thank you, Swift Boat Veterans, for your admirable service, and for standing up for the truth.
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The traitor will crater!

Beatrice1000 · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:34 am Post subject:

Beatrice1000 · Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: Re: New member

Chuck54 · PO1 Joined: 14 Aug 2004 Posts: 466