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Steve Z · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: Kerry hurt by Swift Boat Ads

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/31/160724.shtml

According to this article, pollster Frank Luntz told Joe Scarborough that Kerry's credibility has been hurt by Swift Boat Veterans ads, especially because "I don't think the viewers at home realize just how important it is [that] they've got Kerry on videotape, they've got Kerry on radio ... you actually hear the accent, communicating what he felt.

"We're in the middle of a war right now, and the American people in general and veterans in particular don't want to hear someone, 35 years ago, basically trashing the troops." ...

Luntz added, "Exactly. And there's one word here that stands out - we did some focus groups in the last few days - and the word is betrayal.

"That's how people feel. The language that he used, the fact that he said what he said back at that time, the veterans feel like they were betrayed."
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WalterW · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject:

This ad is the most powerful because there is no way Kerry can claim anything about it.

Every time I hear it, I think that it needs to run over and over right until the polls close in Hawaii on November 2.

4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

Gomer Pyle said it best...

"Fool me once shame on you....fool me twice shame on me"!
I think our kids deserve better than to be fooled by kerry.
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Michael Wright · Seaman Recruit Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 18

I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way
of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never
surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to
resist.

If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will
make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither
parole nor special favors from the enemy.

If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners.
I will give no information or take part in any action which might be
harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will
obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me, and will back them up in
every way.

When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give
only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering
further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or
written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to
their cause.

I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom,
responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my
country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.

Granted Kerry was never a POW but should we hold POW'S to a higher standard?

JohM · Seaman Recruit Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 29

Very good but here is a bit shorter variant:

There is one certain means by which I can be sure never to see my country's ruin -- I will die in the last ditch.

Willaim of Orange

minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

please someone tell me I am hearingthis wrong on fox they are saying vets will back off if kerry apologise, that would be the ultimitate let down, did anyone else hear it

You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

Minnie,

Did you see the conditions? Kerry would have to admit that his three purple hearts were undeserved, that he was not in Cambodia at Christmas, come out with the straight story on the Rassman rescue, and apologize.

If he'd caved to the condition, they'd have gotten in his own words admissions to the things they've said he's done. Would have been a major victory and worth stopping the ads.

Not going to happen. Kerry Kamp has already said no.

Swiftees gave him a choice, he made a choice.

WalterW · Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: re foxnews

Nomorelies · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:44 am Post subject:

Kerry won't apologize. He rejected the terms of surrender.
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minnie presley · Commander Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Posts: 307

he just apoligised to the vets at legion convention, I hope to god that the vets are not going to accept that and trust this creep, remember folks will say anything do anything to get elected, also could not beleive they actually sat through all his lies. now is not the time for vets to cave in please stayy the course, otherwise he will have won, you are all in our prays, to give yopu the strenth throughm this

DaveL · Commander Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 300

Uisguex Jack · Rear Admiral Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 613

I listened to allot of that speech and also did not hear anything close to a apology, Did I miss something?

What I did hear is that apparently Jfkerry is all veterans best friend there ever, ever was. Yet another Orwellian interlude brought to us by the DNC and Heinz catsup.