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Michael B. Smith · Seaman Recruit Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 24

>>much of what they ask requires an encyclopedia to answer>>

No it doesn't and the responses I have recieved in kind by many WILLING posters here is proof of that!

>>People are too busy to research, and they want answers NOW, which comes off as demanding and self-important.<<

Yes - people are busy - and if they care not to answer, then no one is twisting their arm! AND - I might add - the first post of this thread - my post, was neither demanding or lends any credibility to your statement of coming off as "self-important"

>>People who are looking for answers need to be steered to appropriate places to find the information, <<

Yes they do - that is why I have tried to thank each and every single poster who has responded in kind. And why I am seeking answers elsewhere than on this message board!

>>(And this is not aimed at just the originator of this post, but many participants, here.) <<

Based on your other responses - which I purposely ignored - I would think it was!

Is this not a forum to ask questions?

Or

Is this a forum for back patting and loathing ONLY of a political candidate you find distasteful?

Do you not want us lazy people who think we are to self important to know the truth, or shoudl we continue to go through life ignorant of that truth!

I really find it amazing that a very few people want to shout and scream about allegations Kerry made 30 years ago, side with a group of vets whose aim is to "tell the truth" and then ***** and moan when someone ask questions? I might add - I am the ONLY poster here posting under my real name! I am neither ashamed of my questions or ashamed of my lack of understanding about this issue - I HOPE however, as has been the case thus far - there are Viet vets out there who care to respond and set the record straight.

But - I'll follow your lead, since by your previous responses I have apparently come to the wrong place! - do you want to tell the truth of Vietnam - OR not? If not - I'll understand completely what the goal is here!

respectfully
Michael Berryman Smith
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Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

You missed the entire gist of that post, Mr. Smith.

Please go back and read the very first line.
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TEWSPilot · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:08 am Post subject:

Michael, I have been looking for any new questions for the last 4 pages. Do you still have any?
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eziek · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:58 am Post subject: Testimony

Michael,

My Nam experience included more than 350 air assaults, countless tango boat insertions, the loss of 92 comrades (within a standing company strength of 90). I did not see one wounded VC killed once disabled, no ear collections, rapes, random burning of villages, or shooting at civilians. Within the unit the KIA:WIA ratio was 1:3, PH's were issued after dustoffs, and one silver star and one soldiers medal was awarded within the unit.

You are seeking truth...you will find it here...Just the truth...anything less will represent gross negligence of our collective duty to the remarkable men and woman who are sacrificing their daily comfort, psyche, and lives to allow us to continue our pursuits in safety. Truth is an imperative to continue to attract the best and brightest to sacrifice for a greater good. The courage of SBVT is based on this ideal and is enormously admired for there is no combat pay, no medals to be awarded in this 24/7 fire fight against the unprecendented attacks from every corner in this country supposedly founded on freedom of speech.

Loyalty above all else except honor.
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Michael B. Smith · Seaman Recruit Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 24

Sgt Mastrorillo · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:21 pm Post subject:

Mike Yes there were atrocietes But they did not occur on a day to day basis. Im sure the number of rapes was small, probably a comparable percentage of rapes that occured back home was the same or more. He also said the country had created a monster a monster ion the form of millions of men who only know how to trade in violencerapes that

Sgt-Keeper · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 96

Michael,
Don't get your undies in a bundle just because some threw bombs. We're glad you asked because this is turning out to be one of the longest threads that I have seen here. Thank you for your respect, and have patience with these vets. We're getting old and finally have a place to vent after more than 40 years. (I'm 60 this year)
Mr. Kerry has finally done something worthwhile in his entire miserable existence. He has forced us to discuss a painful time in our history, and provided a means for the PROUD Viet Nam Vets to get the real honest truth out to the American public. Those two things I thank JFK for. Nothing else. It doesn't override the pain & suffering he caused, but this forum has existed because of his arrogance. To my brother & sister warriorers, welcome home! We are alive and well. Our voices are being heard after all this time. And a special thanks to the SBVs. Carry on, Michael. Smile

Tom Lonze
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TEWSPilot · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject:

I had a chance to read the reinstated posts by LineGrunt and wanted to clarify my challenge to him and anyone else who claims to have participated in "atrocities" in Vietnam. With the exception of John Kerry, who admits to having committed "atrocities" in Vietnam and documented events such as My Lai -- which were severely prosecuted--, Mr. Burkett and other historians have outed hundreds of posers making similar claim, and to date, even the Naval Investigative Service and other government and private agencies have yet to find a single one who "was ordered" to do what was claimed. The staged cutting off of a dead VC's ear by a CBS photojournalist using two duped soldiers is the only known account even documented.

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