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RMalloy PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:35 am Post subject: Why are there blackouts on Kerry's citations? |
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Can someone tell me why the are black boxes on Kerry's citations
for the Purple Hearts and Bronze Star? They are all right after
Kerry's name, what would have been there and why is Kerry blanking it out?
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rb325th Admiral
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 1334
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Maybe his Social Security number?
Not sure when the Military went over to SSNs as identifiers, but I would sure block out mine if I were married to that much money. _________________ U.S. Army 1983-1995, 11C1P/11H2P NBTDT |
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cipher Vice Admiral
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 902
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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They were the serial number, redacted by the Navy fo comply with the Privacy Act.
It is possible that if the documents were from Kerry's private stash of records, he redacted them himself (or had his butler do it between making peanut butter sandwiches...)
Of note, sometimes they miss one or two. Kerry's serial number is known from several other independent sources, so it's a moot point. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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llano Seaman
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 157 Location: Llano Estacado
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:57 am Post subject: |
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I believe the switch over to SSN began in 1969. _________________ Home in Lubbock Texas, home of the Vietnam Project at Texas Tech University. A place visited frequently by Navy Chief. |
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cipher Vice Admiral
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:01 am Post subject: |
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Mine wasn't converted until 71/72.
Then again, I was a Marine, and we're always the last to get The Word. _________________ USMC 69-72, 7th Comm, 3rd MarDiv, FMFPAC
US Army 75-79, 97th Sig, SHAPE, NATO
Arkansas National Guard 79
Defense contractor for US Navy, SSPO, SP-20, SP-24, OP-12 84-92 |
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jwb7605 Rear Admiral
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 690 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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cipher wrote: | Mine wasn't converted until 71/72.
Then again, I was a Marine, and we're always the last to get The Word. |
for "enlisted in USN":
While the 'full draft' was in effect, Service numbers started with a letter
... you could tell what part of the country somebody was from by the letter and the first two digits (mine was "B61". Northeast Nebraska)
Then with the lottery, they went to a numbering system.
Then when the draft ended, that changed to SSN.
I don't remember what years what happened. I just remember getting layed off in 1987, and being 'moved to a special part' of the unemployment benefits procedure because of all that. They had "normal", "ex-military", and "special military" because of the above numbering systems. I was (and, of course, still am) "special". |
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Dane Lt.Jg.
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 114 Location: Chile
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt that the old serial numbers are protected under Privacy Act considerations. Itīs probably through force of habit on the part of the clerk that released the records. Kind of a mind-numbed automatic action by an overworked clerk that processes thousands of documents each day.
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Van Gibboney Seaman Recruit
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 2 Location: Conyers, Ga.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:27 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure that the army went to SS numbers the first day of July 1969. I went to the army prior to July 1, 1969 and had a RA #. The reason this sticks in my head was from having to recite my name, rank, service # and SS number after taking off my gas mask in basic training at FT. Cambell,KY. When I found later that recuits after 1 July had one less thing to say, I remenber thinking how much quicker I would have been able to get out of there.
Funny how somethings stick in your head after all these years. _________________ HARDHEAD |
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