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Why are there blackouts on Kerry's citations?

 
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RMalloy
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:35 am    Post subject: Why are there blackouts on Kerry's citations? Reply with quote

Can someone tell me why the are black boxes on Kerry's citations
for the Purple Hearts and Bronze Star? They are all right after
Kerry's name, what would have been there and why is Kerry blanking it out?
Thanks
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rb325th
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe his Social Security number?
Not sure when the Military went over to SSNs as identifiers, but I would sure block out mine if I were married to that much money.
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cipher
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were the serial number, redacted by the Navy fo comply with the Privacy Act.

It is possible that if the documents were from Kerry's private stash of records, he redacted them himself (or had his butler do it between making peanut butter sandwiches...)

Of note, sometimes they miss one or two. Kerry's serial number is known from several other independent sources, so it's a moot point.
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llano
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the switch over to SSN began in 1969.
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cipher
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine wasn't converted until 71/72.

Then again, I was a Marine, and we're always the last to get The Word.
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jwb7605
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cipher wrote:
Mine wasn't converted until 71/72.

Then again, I was a Marine, and we're always the last to get The Word.

for "enlisted in USN":
While the 'full draft' was in effect, Service numbers started with a letter
... you could tell what part of the country somebody was from by the letter and the first two digits (mine was "B61". Northeast Nebraska)
Then with the lottery, they went to a numbering system.
Then when the draft ended, that changed to SSN.

I don't remember what years what happened. I just remember getting layed off in 1987, and being 'moved to a special part' of the unemployment benefits procedure because of all that. They had "normal", "ex-military", and "special military" because of the above numbering systems. I was (and, of course, still am) "special". Smile
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Dane
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt that the old serial numbers are protected under Privacy Act considerations. Itīs probably through force of habit on the part of the clerk that released the records. Kind of a mind-numbed automatic action by an overworked clerk that processes thousands of documents each day.

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Van Gibboney
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that the army went to SS numbers the first day of July 1969. I went to the army prior to July 1, 1969 and had a RA #. The reason this sticks in my head was from having to recite my name, rank, service # and SS number after taking off my gas mask in basic training at FT. Cambell,KY. When I found later that recuits after 1 July had one less thing to say, I remenber thinking how much quicker I would have been able to get out of there.

Funny how somethings stick in your head after all these years.
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