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Me#1You#10 · Site Admin Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503

From the "Latest News" and the "TV Ads and Videos" page of our main website, here's a link to a radio debate between Van Odell and Del Sandusky on the "Lynne Breidenbach Show", Sep 22. The Kerry campaign avoids head-to-head matchups between Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and members of Kerry's own diminutive "Band of Brothers," and after hearing this you'll understand why.

Van Odell is FANTASTIC!

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

Whoa!!!!

Way to go, Van Odell! Beat them with the truth - it'll win every debate, every time.

Great spokesman!
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Ticker · Seaman Recruit Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 6

Great! Sounds to me like Van & Lynne laid a better ambush for Del
than he faced on Mar. 13, 1969. Laughing

Aristotle The Hun · PO1 Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 488 Location: Naples FL

Thanks for posting this. Sandusky will be here (Naples FL) on the 28th. Maybe I will have a chance to ask a few questions. Like, "Was Rassman wounded when you picked him up after he fell overboard?"

Sam
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Fort Campbell · Vice Admiral Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 896

Outstanding job, Van Odell. You have my sincerest respect.

GenrXr

Bernard Cullen · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 44

DerbyRed · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, Aristotle . . . .Sweeeeeeeeet. That’s probably been the LEAST asked FAQ in this whole deal. None of the “Bund of Brothers” ever mention Rassman’s PH -- probably because it’s not going to be e-z to suddenly insert a “wounding-event” into their version of the action.

The O’Dell-vs-Sandusky audio is dynamite!! We had Sandusky and Skip Barker together up the road in Fayetteville about three weeks ago at a “Pro-Kerry Rally” (sic). He’s not the brightest bulb in the hallway. He upped the ante by saying that (paraphrase): SBVFT were lying; and, jfk needed surgery on two of the three “wounds” he rec’d in RVN.

Back to the audio . . . Sandusky sank himself right off when he brought up Larry Thurlow’s BS Citation mentioning withering enemy fire. O’Dell had the comeback nailed. The only person who could possible have known how “overstated” the citation narrative was going to be . . . jfk!!!! Gotta luv Sandusky’s feigning not to know who he was talking to. > > > GBA/cul/dmm
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joe_madeup · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92

Sandusky's defense of JFK amounted to "He's a hero...he's a hero..." almost mantra-like towards the end there.

I found it interesting that:

(1) Sandusky has been hospitalized twice for PTSD (according to him - his own comment - unless I mis-heard).

(2) Sandusky couldn't name an atrocity, and only talked about HEARING of them (as someone said).

(3) Sandusky insisted that Kerry in 1971 had *NOT* accused his fellow vets of widespread atrocities "on a day-to-day basis". Sandusky insisted several times that Kerry never said "day-to-day", and had never accused himself (Kerry) or his own unit (Swift Boats). Of course, Sandusky is wrong on both counts (just look up the 1971 transcript).

I am trying to imagine where Sandusky is coming from. Maybe Kerry, VVAW, and psycho-therapists just suckered Sandusky into a bill of goods - a pile of stories - and he doesn't want to admit it? Kerry was his CO. They somehow bonded. Maybe Sandusky just can't deal with any information that makes Kerry look bad?

I also found Sandusky's comment interesting, about the SBVfT guys, something like 'They were our friends and now all the sudden they've gone to the other side, I don't know why.' I would love to be a fly on the wall at the next SBV re-union....will Sandusky talk to Thurlow and Odell? and finally be set right? or argue with them? etc.

larryivy · Seaman Recruit Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 15

Im sorry guys, you can keep putting lipstick on this pig but it doesn't change the fact this guy is knowingly lying, not badly mistaken.

All the medals flap can be debated and honestly debated from thirty years ago but I this guy saying Kerry didn't say what we've all seen on video many times is NOT merely being mistaken nor is it open for interpretation. This guy is a political Kerry Koolaid drinker that has been recruited and briefed on the DNC talking points.

He started off the interview obfuscating about how long he served under Kerry. Thats not what someone does when they really believe they are right.

Just my impression.
Larry

llano · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:58 am Post subject:

Van Odell did a great job. I wished he'd challenged Sandusky on his time with Kerry. Sandusky made it sound like he was there for every single one of Kerry's medals.

Now I have to find a thread about this 10th Swift boat vet who witnessed the Bronze start incident.
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joe_madeup · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92

I can't wait for the election.....when Kerry is gone and this stuff doesn't matter...

drjohn · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:27 am Post subject:

Sandusky has said that he remembers Kerry "all shot and bleeding." I'd love to ask him where Kerry was shot and from where was he bleeding?

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hanna · Rear Admiral Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 701

Sandusky talking about the relationship between he and Kerry after the war is laughable.

This from the Boston Globe......
Over the years, Kerry has remained close to many of his crewmates, helping some cope with life's rough patches; he helped arrange for Del Sandusky, a crewmate who was on FleetCenter stage last Thursday, to receive help for alcohol abuse and depression years ago and kept in touch with Sandusky's doctors for years after.

http://chat.forclark.com/comments/2004/7/31/214242/040/263