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Rdtf
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| Hey Mr. japan - you know you can go here to this site and get the screensaver that runs all the swiftvet adds that you can't see there - pass them on to your buddies! |
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rb325th
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Went to the AOL Poll someone posted on the previous page(s). It was split 50/50 on who "Won" the debate. The questions on who would better handle national Security and Iraq were, shall we say not too god for Mr. Kerry. 30-40 point difference!!
People out there who dislike Bush and are voting against him for that reason only will still do so. Those who may not agree with Bush on everything have only to look at the Waffle King to understand the danger that narcassitstic personality poses to our safetey!
Good Nigh JFnKerry!!
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Given all the rules, I wasn't expecting anyone to have the opportunity for a KO.
I did expect lies, obfuscations and distortions from Kerry and I wasn't disappointed.
I expected solid, consistent statements about our national defense from the President and I wasn't disappointed there, either.
I expected Lehrer to act like the leftist azzhat that he has always been, but he seemed rather subdued in that regard. Anyone else think so?
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| anyone just see Holbrooke act like the jerk he is on Hannity reviewing the debate? RUDE |
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hanna
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| gia_lin_fo wrote: | | Did I hear Kerry state that WMD was coming across the borders, when referring to the insurgency in Iraq? |
Yes, you certainly did..and I have yet to hear anyone comment on it. Of course he will just say it is mis-speak. |
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jim_nyc
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Bush won hands down.
At best you can sum up Kerry as saying What he's (Bush) is doing but I'll do it better. Not a compelling.
At worst he sounded like Alger Hiss.
I have the hardest time believing that there are people at there who would vote for this guy.
I'm glad Bush kept highlighting that although Kerry claims to be this master diplomat he has insulted all who stand with us now. |
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breezy
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Created: Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 21:06:37 EDT
Who do you think won the first U.S. presidential debate?
President George W. Bush 17% 6776 votes
Sen. John Kerry 79% 31223 votes
Evenly matched 3% 1306 votes
Total: 39305 votes
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diane in IL
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I thought GW looked tired. I wish that he had gone to a spa and had a manicure to relax instead of having comforted hurricane victims all day. I suspect next debate, he will be more rested and come out swinging. I am kind of disappointed in his performance. He is capable of so much more. It must be really tiring to run the world. My husband thought that Kerry looked more polished but that most people would respond better to GW's honesty and committment. We both still have no doubt that Bush will win on Nov. 2.
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MrJapan
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| JCBoston wrote: | It makes me sick to my stomach to say it but I also think Kerry won the debate. And it pisses me off. There were several points that Bush had the oportunity to slam Kerry on and when they came up he passed on them.
I'm really bummed. I already know what the opinions of most of us that frequent this site are, but I'm worried about the ones that rarely pay much attention to politics until the debates start. I think for them Kerry looked alot better, and Bill Clinton proved that's all you really need to win 8 years in the White House. |
Well, don't feel too down... maybe Dubya is saving it all for the last debate... can't show his arsonal yet.... save the best for last.. Can't let the other Kamp know what he has up his sleeves... let Kerry think he has it all.. then lay it all loose on him with the final barrage 
Then again.. I REALLY don't know if that'a the plan.. makes sense though..
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dmackto
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| ProudDaughterofVet wrote: | My first reaction was that Kerry won..however, have some breathing..I myself had such high expectations for Bush, that I think I was disappointed. So, objectively, a tie. Bush had a chance to slam dunk this and he did not. CNN poll??? please..we know where that is leading..to Comrade Schnieder and his analysis..
however a good article to be read:
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20040930112609990001
a bit slanted toward Kerry..but what the heck, fair to say the least..
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Did you notice the large banner to the right of the article? I think it attempts to make it look like its a headline but its an ad run by the DMC saying Kerry won and Bush failed to have a plan for Iraq.
I getting gray hair.
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Rdtf
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| hanna wrote: | | gia_lin_fo wrote: | | Did I hear Kerry state that WMD was coming across the borders, when referring to the insurgency in Iraq? |
Yes, you certainly did..and I have yet to hear anyone comment on it. Of course he will just say it is mis-speak. |
yes he did say that - I guess he has invented his own description of what that is. Equally annoying was how he kept saying 'the america' instead of america. |
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kmudd
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| Rdtf wrote: | | anyone just see Holbrooke act like the jerk he is on Hannity reviewing the debate? RUDE |
And it makes me sick because Holbrooke was an advistor to Johnson on Vietnam and said on PBS's Vietnam documentary that when we got into Vietnam he was thrilled the he was in a war. But the thing was he was a diplomat not a solider so his live was not in danger. He was thrilled that he was endangering other young men. |
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ProudMilitaryWifeDaughter
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:21 am Post subject: HEY |
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If you guys post a poll please add the link
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Shore
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If Bush and Kerry were to have a "real" debate I think GW would have rattled him. As it was, the format was better for Kerry.
This was an important debate. I hope I am wrong about the result. I do fear the media will trumpet this up and it will lose GW his lead. |
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hanna
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| breezy wrote: | Created: Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 21:06:37 EDT
Who do you think won the first U.S. presidential debate?
President George W. Bush 17% 6776 votes
Sen. John Kerry 79% 31223 votes
Evenly matched 3% 1306 votes
Total: 39305 votes
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That was on MSNBC? I tested that thing. You can sit there and vote and vote and vote as many times as you want. That vote means absolutely NOTHING. |
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