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zinfella Rear Admiral
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 708 Location: Mesa, Az
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Here's a quote from the WSJ online column Best of The Web Today, that i read before the debate.
"'Debate Response Team'
Now we know how John Kerry plans to "win" tonight's debate. We received an e-mail this afternoon from Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, on behalf of the DNC's "debate response team." Recipients are urged to help the campaign spin the debate:
"National and local news organizations will be conducting online polls during and after the debate asking for readers' opinions. Look for online polls at these national news websites, and make sure to vote in every one of them."
"Immediately after the debate, go online and write a letter to the editor of your local paper. If you feel John Kerry commanded the debate and had a clear plan for fixing the mess in Iraq, put it in your letter. If you feel George Bush dodged tough questions on Iraq and didn't level with voters, put it in your letter."
"Do you listen to national or local call-in shows on the radio? How about on TV? Call them and let them know what you thought of John Kerry's plan to keep America secure and George Bush's continuing refusal to admit the truth about his record."
"Your actions immediately after the debate tonight can help John Kerry win on November 2," the e-mail says. Do these guys really think such cheerleading is what wins presidential elections?
Mc Awful, and the Dems PLANNED these after debate polls! _________________ No whiners! |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Sen. Bob Graham just about spun himself right off of his stool in defense of his boy! LOL!
Kerry missed more than 76% of the open meetings of the Intelligence committee after the first WTC bombings and Hannity has it on good authority that his attendance at the closed door sessions has been even lower.
Graham, "I've always thought he was a contributing member." Nothing about Kerry's attendance, except that Kerry should release his attendance records if he chooses too. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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MotherGoose Seaman Recruit
Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 16 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: I've been thinking about this for over an hour. |
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How can ANYBODY think Kerry won this debate? Debate or no debate....just look at what he says. He calls this the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time. How in this world can you have confidence in a leader when he doesn't even believe in the cause? THINK ABOUT THAT!! How does that look to the people that want to harm us? WEAK, WEAK, WEAK!!!
Kerry denigrates our allies.....and that is unconscionable! What do you think they will do IF Kerry is elected after hearing what he thinks about them?
HE HAS NO PLAN TO WIN THE PEACE!!! Who is he relying on? France and Germany? They said they won't come in, no matter who is president.
Kerry made me sick. Critical...that is all he could be. He is one pessimistic SOB.
Just remember the words of Teddy Roosevelt:
''It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.'' |
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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Paul R. wrote: | Quote: | Someone like Lieberman that isn't a lying traitor would be harder to fight. |
Well, true, but Lieberman is not a lying traitor, therefore, not so dangerous to the country. I'd still vote Bush over Lieberman, but Lieberman as POTUS doesn't scare me the way Kerry does. |
Thats exactly what I meant. |
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W.P. Wily Lt.Jg.
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 101
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Navy_Navy_Navy wrote: | Oh, let's lay out a plan for where the terrorists will find us vulnerable. |
N3, if you're referring to that part about the airport and container inspections stuff, I agree. I was horrified to hear him going into that much detail. The point easily could have been made without going into specifics, I mean, why make it easy? |
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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | This "Take the high road" crap has to end. I hope that his campaign managers recognize that after tonight. |
It's kind of like trying to win the basketball game while the other team is playing football, isn't it? |
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MrJapan PO1
Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Posts: 465 Location: Chiba, Japan
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Rdtf wrote: | JCBoston wrote: | MrJapan wrote: | If Kerry DOES win (not saying he will).. you think I can ask to renounce my citizenship and become Japanese? |
If that happens I might come with you. |
you two sound like Babs Streisand and Alec Baldwin. Last I heard, in japan it's hard to find a door tall enough or a bed long enoug for westerner. Just think if kerry wins, we may be spending the euro instead of the dollar. |
Well, 1 good thing about the short doors... I get LOTS of practice bowing every time I have to walk through one.... I would rather be paying in YEN than Euro anyday...
Kinda insulting to have Bab. S. and me in the same post _________________ USAF
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joeshero Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Honestly speaking, Bush won the debate on the substance. Kerry won on the style. NOW, what do American people really want? A guy which had just got manicured and spa but convoluted himself on a issue of life and death, or a guy who looked tired but steady on the principle?
I thought Bush would deliver a kissing death tonight. He could have done it many times with simple lines which did not take even one minute. He could said, "Jim, even after we debated for about one hour, I don't still know what the Senator's position on Iraq. You have asked him many times, but he never answered the question directly. Should we continue the debate until tomorrow to finally get the Senator's position?. On the issue of life and death, we can't afford to have a leader...a leader of a great nation ...a nation which is being attacked by the ideolog killers to change his position anytime he wants and where the wind blows".
Kerry's chance could have been over by tonight. I am little bit upset, but still Bush is winning. _________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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Nathanyl PO3
Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:10 am Post subject: |
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From Drudge:
LOCKHART: DEBATE CONSENSUS A 'DRAW'
Unbeknownst to Kerry adviser Mike McCurry, a C-SPAN camera quietly followed McCurry as he found Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart on Spin Alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. Lockhart candidly said to McCurry , The consensus is it was a draw. _________________ Bill Hershey
www.worldwar4.net |
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nightingale97 Ensign
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Check out the latest on Drudge and Lockhart's candid comment. _________________ Proud to serve! No medals required! |
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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Nathanyl wrote: | From Drudge:
LOCKHART: DEBATE CONSENSUS A 'DRAW'
Unbeknownst to Kerry adviser Mike McCurry, a C-SPAN camera quietly followed McCurry as he found Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart on Spin Alley floor and asked him his impression of the debate. Lockhart candidly said to McCurry , The consensus is it was a draw. |
priceless!!! |
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joeshero Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:13 am Post subject: |
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I think Bush camp made mistake this morning. Bush should have not campaign today. He should have taken a complete rest since last night. Bush looked tired tonight, and that's bad.
Kerry is a pathological liar, but a liar could win unless someone discovers and reveals his lie effectively. _________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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greasepaint Seaman
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 177 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Global Test... |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:15 am Post subject: |
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"Let not your hearts be troubled."
The immediate polling that occurs after a debate always changes - sometimes dramatically - three or four days later.
Hugh Hewitt is already at work on it - and the bloggers are on it.
Tomorrow, Rush will be ALL OVER IT. Every inconsistency, every lie, every obfuscation.
The internet and talk radio will first bring out the dirt and when people understand what's been said, tonight, as opposed to what John Kerry wanted them to THINK he said - well... everything is going to look different. Even 24 hours from now, things will look different.
I listened to it on c-span while I was reading here - I thought the President did a good job, considering the constrictions he is under both from the standpoint of international relations and from the standpoint that he must take the high road.
Let the bloggers and pundits start some real analysis, now. Bet you'll agree that Kerry is a loser in this match before three days are up. _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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deserturtle Seaman
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 187 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: Kerry's claim |
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Kerry claimed he never ever used the word lying in reference to President Bush on Iraq.
http://www.rnc.org/RNCResearch/Read.aspx?ID=4772 _________________ The door to the room of success swings on the hinges of the opposition. |
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