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[Jesse]

I think there is a lot more to the Iraqi WMD story than we are seeing or probably will ever see.

Here's an article that will knock your socks off if you haven't read it;

Iraqi WMD Debate and Intelligence: the Links to Libya

This article holds Iraq was conducting its WMD programs outside its borders, (with Libya, Egypt, Iran, North Korea), since the early 90s. I don't buy the idea the coalition governments didn't know about the Iraq-Libya-Egypt-Iran-DPRK WMD linkages , I think it's more likely they knew, at least to some extent, and chose to "crack the coconut" at its weakest point, Iraq.

Here are a couple sections that might explain why this information isn't coming out in the MSM;

[Fort Campbell]

I had to turn off the TV this evening because this CIA report of no WMDs was all they were talking about. I can just imagine what Kerry is going to do with that tomorrow night. The timing of much of this "official" information dismays me. Paul Bremer just had to give his "opinion" on troop numbers right before the VP Debate and now the CIA report on no WMDs is released today? Just about the time I think we are making headway I feel as if we are being deliberatley smacked back down. I certainly hope that all of you are correct in your thoughts that Cheney has some good news about these WMDs. Personally I am discouraged at all of it seeming to favor Hanoi John.

[2ndamendsis]

Jesse,
could you please post a link to that information?
Thanks
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[Jesse]

Click the title, it's a link.

or

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Libya/Jan3004.htm

other articles and links here;

http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Libya/index.htm

[ProudDaughterofVet]

We should of told Libya..you want a big "good job"..then tell us where the WMD's and all info from Iraq is! Someone dropped the ball here. I do believe that both Syria, and Libya and who knows who else has these weapons and info..there is no need to hide this info from the public..none. Get it out there, NOW, because Kerry will pounce tomorrow on this darned report, and we all know it. If Bush has an October surprise, he better start springing it now.

I am not anxious..not about the election, I am getting angry that day after day we have to get pounded over the head with the same crap from the MSM about those WMD's..SH is evil pig and should be in prision, we did the right thing if only for the sake of humanity..Kerry demands more action in the Sudan due to genocide, yet he forgets that SH was the master of genocide, the mass graves are perfect examples..that alone justifies this war for me..no need to explain about WMD's any further..

Just a bit peeved tonight folks, so excuse the rant..but had to say my piece.

PD
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[FreeFall]

I had to turn off the TV this evening because this CIA report of no WMDs was all they were talking about. I can just imagine what Kerry is going to do with that tomorrow night. The timing of much of this "official" information dismays me. Paul Bremer just had to give his "opinion" on troop numbers right before the VP Debate and now the CIA report on no WMDs is released today? Just about the time I think we are making headway I feel as if we are being deliberatley smacked back down. I certainly hope that all of you are correct in your thoughts that Cheney has some good news about these WMDs. Personally I am discouraged at all of it seeming to favor Hanoi John.

There's more to the story than this screaming headline. Hussein did have WMD, but not "STOCKPILES". Next time they start spinning NO WMD, they will eventually throw in the the word "stockpiles", but only after they delcare No WMD, which is very misleading.

Plus the ISG leader, Duelfer, at the hearing today indicated that the UN sactions were breaking down, it was just a matter of time before they broke down completely, and countries such as Russia were already selling Iraq banned materials. Plus, Hussein had every intention of starting up programs again once he felt he was ready to. There will probably be more about this in the next couple of days.

[Rdtf]

I think that the timing of Libya cooperating with us on their weapons is suspect... They probably figured by us going after Saddam we'd find out their link and hit them next. Libya might be the reason this hasn't hit the news! Seems like a lot for Bush Admin to sacrifice, though.
The CIA has worked against Bush on this whole matter - read laurie Mylroies books. Bush Vs. The beltway - great one.

Hey ya never know - this could be the October surprise maybe proof Bin Laden is dead and has been since Tora Bora was it until Tereeeeza ran her mouth.

[CTW]

I agree with recent posters on this thread. Angst and queazy. I believe the media is creating the melodrama for ratings however, the OIM is the source of info for most voters. The name calling is outrageous and they are on a blitz to ruin this president and ultimately the country. I see the RNC advisors out and telling the truth. I believe people hear them.

Where on the OIM are the recent docs being discussed? Rathergate may have scared all the media personalities.

I am in Tallahassee. Who knew Bush/Cheney were here yesterday????? CTW

Never Ever Kerry

[Rdtf]

hope you all saw this post from Bruno1. makes me feel ill.

ABC News 1999: Osama linked to Saddam
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12027

[Stevie]

[Rdtf]

this article that has been posted in these forums before may be linked...

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html

[noc]

Shouldn't these documents have been authenticated by now? or are they just sitting on them? It would be great to get this information out, so we can stop hearing the MSM drone on about no connections to terror and no WMD.

[noc]

These documents have been authenticated by several sources now.

Inspector's Report Bolsters Credibility of Iraqi Intelligence Documents

By Scott Wheeler
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 13, 2004

http://www.cnsnews.com/specialreports.asp

(CNSNews.com) - A report issued on Oct. 6 by the CIA's chief inspector in Iraq provides details that corroborate information contained in 42 pages of Iraqi intelligence documents obtained by CNSNews.com.

The so-called Duelfer report, named for its author, Charles Duelfer, is widely recognized for declaring that no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq. Other details of the report, however, provide a glimpse of what some Iraq experts say is Saddam's attempt to continue to wage war against the U.S. after the first Gulf War ended.

"M14 ... was responsible for training and conducting special operations missions. It trained Iraqis, Palestinians, Syrians, Yemeni, Lebanese, Egyptian, and Sudanese operatives in counterterrorism, explosives, marksmanship, and foreign operations at its facilities at Salman Pak," the Duelfer report states.

Salman Pak is a suspected Iraqi terrorist training camp located 15 miles southeast of Baghdad.

M14 is a reference to Iraqi intelligence directorate of special operations. The Iraqi documents obtained by CNSNews.com show a list of 92 individuals of various national origins who were described in the documents as having "finished the course at M14."

The documents also refer to some individuals on the list as having been trained "inside the martyrs act camp that belonged to our directorate."

Laurie Mylroie, an expert on Iraq, said that sections of the Duelfer report help to explain Iraq's intent for the programs discussed in the 42 pages of Iraqi intelligence documents obtained by CNSNews.com.

"At the time of the 2003 Gulf War, this is what the Iraqis were doing," Mylroie told CNSNews.com. "That section of the [Duelfer] report dealing with the Iraqi intelligence service, including M14, very much corroborate the legitimacy and significance" of the 42 pages of Iraqi documents, Mylroie added.

On Oct. 4, CNSNews.com reported that it had obtained 42 pages of Iraqi intelligence documents that showed Saddam had been a state sponsor of terrorism against the U.S., had several ties to al Qaeda that had not been previously reported, and possessed anthrax and mustard gas.

[Aristotle The Hun]

[Kimmymac]

Everyone wanted shock and awe. How about a ground pounding/special op victory instead? I know it ain't as dramatic, but victory, by another name, would smell as sweet, oui?
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